tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post7114702941560438514..comments2023-10-22T14:14:16.419+01:00Comments on J. Arthur MacNumpty: Leadership Saturday: It remains to be seen just how easy it is being GrayWillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10978812670312106107noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-73760601114250785352008-09-15T20:57:00.000+01:002008-09-15T20:57:00.000+01:00Yes, getting back to Will's original point. The el...Yes, getting back to Will's original point. The election of Gray as Leader of the Scottish Opposition is so wrong-headed of Labour as to be almost incredible. <BR/><BR/>But there again, I suppose it is just another demonstration of the long slow decay and decline of Labour, and the most visible symptom of this :- its deeply unlearning and unadaptive mindset.<BR/><BR/>At the weekend I almost felt a grimace come on when I saw on TV Gray's risible attempts to sound all leader-like... an attempt that involved a momentary near-shouting at two points before subsiding back into droning banality..<BR/><BR/>Lamont was a failure as a junior Minister in the Scottish Executive. Methinks she is indeed now maybe settling for the marginalised and undignified role of 'attack dog'... help ma Boab! Maybe she is another Labour politician that wants to be known as 'Stalin's Granny'!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-3512875732880569062008-09-15T00:34:00.000+01:002008-09-15T00:34:00.000+01:00Hey guys,Lighten up! Andy Kerr isn't leader of the...Hey guys,<BR/><BR/>Lighten up! Andy Kerr isn't leader of the Labour party- be grateful for small mercies..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-18841137852650234612008-09-15T00:14:00.000+01:002008-09-15T00:14:00.000+01:00Well, we agree on something, at least, but I hardl...Well, we agree on something, at least, but I hardly think you can blame nationalism for Labour's approach to politics (unless you count the fact that the SNP are Labour's opponents)!<BR/><BR/>And it's worth pointing out that multi-national states don't have the greatest of records either. But at least the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia (the last two post-45) had something - even if it was a doomed ideology - to hold them together. When you took that away, what was left? Sham states that couldn't sustain themselves.Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10978812670312106107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-5551076804962999612008-09-14T23:54:00.000+01:002008-09-14T23:54:00.000+01:00This is the typical Labour mentality post-Alexande...This is the typical Labour mentality post-Alexander: you hurt us so we're going to hurt you back. <BR/><BR/>I agree with that (I'm not a Labour member btw but know enough of them). As for how it looks, I don't think that's a consideration; enough people simply want scores settled. That's what nationalism introduces into the body politic - it doesn't have a great record across Europe for encouraging dialogue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-29472982028680064772008-09-14T20:58:00.000+01:002008-09-14T20:58:00.000+01:00Yes, it's called retaliation and in some circles i...Yes, it's called retaliation and in some circles it's punished more severely.<BR/><BR/>The fact is that you can't say that a witch-hunt is a bad thing one week, then go on a witch-hunt the next.<BR/><BR/>You can't whinge about your rivals capitalising on errors committed by your party's Leader, then make hay when a Councillor on the other side makes the papers for the wrong reasons.<BR/><BR/>This is the typical Labour mentality post-Alexander: you hurt us so we're going to hurt you back. It makes the party look petty, it makes the party look childish and it makes the party look hypocritical.<BR/><BR/>If something's wrong, it stays wrong - no matter who does it.Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10978812670312106107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-20971329833112520342008-09-14T20:24:00.000+01:002008-09-14T20:24:00.000+01:00Well, yah boo! It was you who introduced some very...Well, yah boo! It was you who introduced some very dodgy parallels. I'm sure hitting someone's wrong. Hitting them back is usually looked upon in a different light.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-91692510701447904822008-09-14T19:52:00.000+01:002008-09-14T19:52:00.000+01:00David... the logic is quite obvious and easy to un...David... the logic is quite obvious and easy to understand. If someone complains that something isn't right one week, then does that very thing themselves the next week, that not a case of "what goes around comes around", it's hypocrisy. If something's wrong when someone else does it, it's wrong when you do it. Simple as.Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10978812670312106107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-20331762981498816952008-09-14T18:40:00.000+01:002008-09-14T18:40:00.000+01:00Will....."You can't complain about a witch-hunt ag...Will....."You can't complain about a witch-hunt against Wendy one week and go digging mercilessly through Hanif's history the next."??? <BR/>Not sure of your logic here - that is exactly what you can do! Or, in common parlance, what goes around, comes around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-35517645093898321742008-09-13T16:05:00.000+01:002008-09-13T16:05:00.000+01:00I ain't touching that one - except to say that I r...I ain't touching that one - except to say that I remember how cut up people were when Wendy Alexander rightly took pelters for breaking the law of the land now seek to attack Hanif, who at no point has sought to be a First Ministerial candidate in Scotland, unlike Ms Alexander.<BR/><BR/>You can't complain about a witch-hunt against Wendy one week and go digging mercilessly through Hanif's history the next.Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10978812670312106107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-59227831882519421272008-09-13T14:14:00.000+01:002008-09-13T14:14:00.000+01:00Hey Mac, don't lose much time in the non-issue of ...Hey Mac, don't lose much time in the non-issue of whom is going to be Alex's next verbal punchball and focus on Kezia being forced by Google's Editors to drop the text of Hamif's daughter from her blog. She has not commented on it yet but Brooks of the Jhonston stables has already publish the new in the Press and Journal.Scot by choicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02562795027510478258noreply@blogger.com