tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post6586460682671012429..comments2023-10-22T14:14:16.419+01:00Comments on J. Arthur MacNumpty: Tom Harris MP: Dangerous when Cornered?Willhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10978812670312106107noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-58010309882753777532009-06-09T11:40:28.532+01:002009-06-09T11:40:28.532+01:00Silent Hunter:
I'm talking about the membersh...Silent Hunter:<br /><br />I'm talking about the membership here. Obviously we pick up a vote from non-independence voters, as Unionist parties pick up independence voters. But joining the SNP means you sign up to this:<br /><br /><i>"(a) Independence for Scotland; that is the restoration of Scottish national sovereignty by<br />restoration of full powers to the Scottish Parliament, so that its authority is limited only by<br />the sovereign power of the Scottish People to bind it with a written constitution and by<br />such agreements as it may freely enter into with other nations or states or international<br />organisations for the purpose of furthering international cooperation, world peace and the<br />protection of the environment.<br /><br />(b) the furtherance of all Scottish interests."</i><br /><br />I don't see Tom Harris sticking his moniker below that, and even if he did the activists on the ground would quite rightly be screaming blue murder.<br /><br /><b>If</b> he defected he'd need to go the Sillars route of purdah for a while.<br /><br />And <b>Indy</b> is right - Labour have been nowhere on the ground in Glasgow South, or indeed anywhere in Glasgow. Where are the activists?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-52755609408894974692009-06-09T11:11:52.161+01:002009-06-09T11:11:52.161+01:00Jonnie - the SNP came less than 2000 votes behind ...Jonnie - the SNP came less than 2000 votes behind Labour in the Glasgow South area in 2007.<br /><br />A significant part of the seat is part of the Govan constituency in the Scottish Parliament - which the SNP has already won.<br /><br />There is absolutely nothing 'safe' about Glasgow South. <br /><br />The SNP won because they have been running an excellent campaign in Glasgow South. Tom Harris has been doing nothing.Indyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04383904151475839441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-69045390803394874162009-06-09T11:06:12.827+01:002009-06-09T11:06:12.827+01:00I'm wholly unconvinced by Tom Harris's lat...I'm wholly unconvinced by Tom Harris's latest self-publisicing stunt. <br /><br />He failed as a junior Minister so he is just another one in a line of ex second-liners who know there is nothing in this Government for them, and only likely electoral disaster beckons. So there is not great courage in his latest 'repositioning'.<br /><br />Since being ousted from his <br />Ministerial role he has flapped around regurgitating one populist line after another on whatever topic the media have on that day.<br /><br />No, like others, I would not be surprised if he jumped ship and went over to the SNP - but only because he would get another day or two headlines out of that.Ted Harveynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-31627170168318584562009-06-09T07:54:55.497+01:002009-06-09T07:54:55.497+01:00To be fair to Tom, anyone reading his blog would h...To be fair to Tom, anyone reading his blog would have had a good idea for a long time that he wasn't satisfied with Brown as leader so I don't think this is a reaction to the Euro results.<br /><br />I have to say I find the actions of the blairites pretty awful - at least you could sympathise with the Tory rebels who took on Thatcher, but I have no time whatsoever with people who've had their chance to ruin the country continuing to muck things up from the back benches.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04988201531739344840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-75146323531468979982009-06-08T23:50:43.076+01:002009-06-08T23:50:43.076+01:00Will:
You may well be proved to be right about To...Will:<br /><br />You may well be proved to be right about Tom; but it certainly took some guts to berate Gordon in front of the entire PLP.<br /><br />Anon:<br />Hate to point out the obvious, but, the SNP do best when they aren't banging on about independence which the majority of Scots DON'T want.<br /><br />What is the highest rating independence has ever got? 15%? 20%? hardly a mandate to split now is it.Silent Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12586061220673855660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-91923298634266108282009-06-08T23:14:18.549+01:002009-06-08T23:14:18.549+01:00Silent Hunter: "If he jumped to the SNP; I fo...Silent Hunter: <i>"If he jumped to the SNP; I for one would be delighted.</i><br /><br />Well, speaking as a Glasgow SNP member, I'd be far from delighted. The guy is vehemently anti-independence and pro-Union. And we have some (fairly unhappy) experience of Labour defectors in this part of the world.<br /><br />Let him take his chances in 2010.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-78139174873948288662009-06-08T22:22:45.732+01:002009-06-08T22:22:45.732+01:00Well, Jonnie, he has had the guts to say it to Gor...Well, Jonnie, he has had the guts to say it to Gordon Brown's face - he does deserve credit for that, but the fact is that he's seen a set of results - the Glasgow South breakdown of the European results - which offer one very stark message: "If this happens again a year from now, you lose your job!"<br /><br />Now I accept that it's the mother of all ifs, but you have to admit, basic human nature dictates that he's going to be spooked by that...<br /><br />SH, for me, the jury's still out on Tom Harris. I'm somewhat suspicious that the re-discovery of his cojones co-incided with his enforced return to the backbenches.<br /><br />Perhaps on both counts, I'm being unduly cynical, but things seem a little too co-incidental for my liking.Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10978812670312106107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-25614805104334750132009-06-08T21:53:58.957+01:002009-06-08T21:53:58.957+01:00I DON'T support Labour.
I consider them to be...I DON'T support Labour.<br /><br />I consider them to be both Corrupt and Sleazy.<br /><br />But I support Tom Harris as an honourable man with integrity - he is simply a man who hasn't yet realised that there is no place for honour and integrity in this Labour Government.<br /><br />If he jumped to the SNP; I for one would be delighted.Silent Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12586061220673855660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-8501648578186893882009-06-08T21:48:52.010+01:002009-06-08T21:48:52.010+01:00Will,
Tom Harris has the 4th safest Labour seat i...Will,<br /><br />Tom Harris has the 4th safest Labour seat in Scotland. <br /><br />Do the maths and go figure what it would mean to the Labour Party if Tom Harris were to lose his seat.<br /><br />I don't think self interest comes into it!!<br /><br />At least he has had the guts to say it to the man's faceJonniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10315313857320760933noreply@blogger.com