tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post6426080101126832789..comments2023-10-22T14:14:16.419+01:00Comments on J. Arthur MacNumpty: Why can't the Tories be straight on gay rights?Willhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10978812670312106107noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-4806983867970215822010-04-05T13:26:16.198+01:002010-04-05T13:26:16.198+01:00Christian baggage indeed. Just what does the Bible...Christian baggage indeed. Just what does the Bible actually say on gays?<br /><br />http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible-gay-christianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-24037453285828531612010-04-04T18:00:38.559+01:002010-04-04T18:00:38.559+01:00I guess Will, that they will revert to type. The 2...I guess Will, that they will revert to type. The 21st century sits badlywith so many of them. Not all though. There are young Tories who will change it, but not yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-21887824309276622192010-04-04T16:28:59.405+01:002010-04-04T16:28:59.405+01:00You're right, of course, tris, about where the...You're right, of course, tris, about where the Tory Party presently stands... it's where they decide to stand once they've got the votes that scares me.<br /><br />It's like that line in The West Wing: "Government so small it fits into people's bedrooms." That's where we're heading, apparently...Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10978812670312106107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-47342686592336593632010-04-04T16:06:51.510+01:002010-04-04T16:06:51.510+01:00I suspect that it stands where it thinks it will g...I suspect that it stands where it thinks it will get maximum votes. I think that Grayling was talking at a private function and that this was leaked. It must have suited his particular audience at the time to be anti-gay. At another function with a different audience I’m sure that he would have taken a different attitude.<br /><br />The Tories are desperate to show the younger generation that they have moved to somewhere that equates to the 21st century, whilst making sure that the colonel and his memsahib are still of the opinion that the party remains in the 1950s.<br /><br />The worrying thing to me is how far will this go? Are we to go back to the days when “No Blacks and no Irish” notices hung in B+B windows? (There were no gays in these days of course.) <br /><br />I mean if Catholics can be offended by this, why shouldn’t racists be offended by the idea of a black person sleeping in their beds? Why wouldn’t a Muslim owner be offended by a Christian sleeping in their beds?<br /><br />Come to that how will these owners know that a pair of people are gay. They could just be saving money sharing a room. They could be brothers, or father and son, cousins. Will they ask them at the desk? Loudly? What will they do if a single gay person turns up? Or is it just the possibility of their bed being used for gay sex that worries them?<br /><br />In Mr Grayling’s world, will these people be obliged to include their exclusions in their advertising material like they do with pets? “No dogs or homos”.<br /><br />And are these same Catholics not likely to be offended by heterosexual couples who may or may not employ birth control? Will they check that there are no condoms in the luggage and no evidence of any pills? Will they want to look for other appliances?<br /><br />Do these people really cast their mind to what other people may or may not do in bed or in the privacy of their suites? Seriously? If they do I think they should get counselling! Really I do.<br /><br />I can’t imagine anything sadder.<br /><br />Of course you are right. It is a lucky B+B owner that can turn away custom except at the very height of the season. And bad publicity about this kind of thing is likely to do more harm than good.<br /><br />I wonder if they will allow Catholic priests to stay?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com