tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post3873164554380702595..comments2023-10-22T14:14:16.419+01:00Comments on J. Arthur MacNumpty: The Great Navelgaze ContinuesWillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10978812670312106107noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-89743487130298679122009-12-08T00:33:18.944+00:002009-12-08T00:33:18.944+00:00Very interesting post, J Arthur, as are the the co...Very interesting post, J Arthur, as are the the comments thereafter.<br /><br />If you look at the blogs and comment threads of the posters here, you will see that there has indeed been something very unsavoury going on over the weekend which thankfully Polaris seems to have got to the bottom of, or is getting there at least.<br />Thank goodness for her integrity and tenacity. <br /><br />Also, if you go back and pay another visit to Iain MacW's blog, you'll find that he has written a very contrite second piece, clearly eating some humble pie (obviously in response to the pelters he must have got from some offended bloggers), and acknowledging that he may not have been across the depths of the bloggysphere as he might have been. I found it quite a touching piece, actually - I think you will too. All due respect to him for his honesty.<br /><br />And since then, of course, we have had Joan MacAlpine's much-needed piece which has thrown the whole thing into the spotlight again, and probably attracted several hundred more curious readers and browsers into this strange but fascinating new world that I have only just begun to inhabit.<br /><br />I'm torn between the standpoint of Joan and the standpoint of AWC, personally. But really glad that both these views are being aired and read by interested parties.<br /><br />All of this can only help us do as you hope for, which is to raise our game, maximise our opportunity for in-depth high quality debate - complete with satire and humour (!) - and show the MSM what they are missing - and indeed, what they are depriving the general reading public of.<br /><br />Trebles all round! (Credit to Private Eye for that one, obviously).Quinie frae Angushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12143595944916671278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-28947412342914003152009-12-07T21:08:40.908+00:002009-12-07T21:08:40.908+00:00Polaris, all good points and an issue worth highli...Polaris, all good points and an issue worth highlighting - that anonymity/pseudonymity in and of itself is neither bad nor new - it's what we do in our alternate guise that counts.<br /><br />Jeanne, I'd have trouble in a blogosphere that didn't use sarcasm/satire/criticism as I myself use all three - that's why I'm not contending that we stay away from them. Rather, I'm arguing that we should make sure that they're going somewhere, that they have a point and that we can make a positive case for the things we do believe in as well as take an unimpressed look at the things we don't support. Aye We Can! basically said it for me.Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10978812670312106107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-62700088383462465812009-12-07T12:09:05.483+00:002009-12-07T12:09:05.483+00:00Jeaane
"satire, sarcasm and criticism" ...Jeaane<br /><br />"satire, sarcasm and criticism" id suggest is the very essence of blogging.<br /><br />But crude abuse, expltives etc aint satire. Cheese and Wardgog were great at satire - effective. It when they resorted to basic abuse - in anger I suggest - that they got themseves in trouble and handed the unionists a big stick to beat us all with.<br /><br />Surely this is the main lesson of it all?<br /><br />And I see Subrosa is now gladly back in business. An abuse free blog - and all the more effective for it.<br /><br />As ever a good blog Mr McNumpty, a man not shrt of satire....and still going!Alan Smarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08238599957331198637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-2510028129903780122009-12-07T03:00:53.406+00:002009-12-07T03:00:53.406+00:00The problem is when it comes to Scotland there hav...The problem is when it comes to Scotland there have been plenty of PROVEN conspiracies which some people seem eager to forget. FOI documents prove that it has happened time after time. Press eavesdropping isn't exactly in the distant past. <br /><br />Nationalists are amazingly frightened of looking paranoid or like conspiracists. *shrug*<br /><br />Of course, there are people who want to shut up nationalist bloggers since it is the only media really open TO nationalists. They'd be more than a bit stupid not to. <br /><br />I have a big issue with your contention that satire, sarcasm and criticism has no place on blogs. Just as Guido Fawkes has proven, it is the most effective form of blogging out there and not for just building hits.<br /><br />But anyone who does satire and criticism had better be ready to take the heat because heat there is likely to be.J. R. Tomlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01109874615059334200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-58604796697752070622009-12-06T23:57:50.032+00:002009-12-06T23:57:50.032+00:00Hi Alison, your next!Hi Alison, your next!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-26859999200811701092009-12-06T23:46:53.678+00:002009-12-06T23:46:53.678+00:00Will, I don't think there are too many 12 foot...Will, I don't think there are too many 12 foot lizards, armed to the teeth, and gunning for bloggers - but how cool would that be?<br /><br />One thing the last few weeks has demonstrated to me, and I am privy to quite a bit of information on this now, is that there are serious attempts being made to silence bloggers - and in Scotland the Nationalist bloggers have borne the brunt of this. There are also misguided individuals who are attempting to self aggrandise by association with this, nutjobs who clearly self-identify with the righteousness of the MSM.<br /><br />The MSM hypocrisy pours down the walls as they beat themselves into a lather over pseudonymous (not anonymous) UK bloggers; as Joan pointed out writing under a pseudonym has many precedents. Drumlanrig (not a real name I presume) was quick to applaud the demise of SNP anonymous bloggers today - do they not see the glaring inconsistency in that?<br /><br />We support the right to a blogger's privacy in countries we consider oppresive, whilst trading with them, but cannot do the same for UK bloggers? Many, including myself, consider the UK to be a wasteland of oppression and totalitarianism, where is my right to anonymity? Who will defend it? I won't count on the partners in glove with the corrupt state - the fourth estate. The MSM press have no moral high ground from which to criticise anybody, that went a long time ago...<br /><br />We all have a right to privacy and an equal right to express ourselves - where else should we go?<br /><br />I personally will defend those rights with every last fibre of my being, even if I disagree with you.<br /><br />I don't though, well sometimes, erm - you know what I mean, I didn't mean you personally it was a generalisation.Tridenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10283513703332082614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-2058738251546432722009-12-06T22:49:09.452+00:002009-12-06T22:49:09.452+00:00Well, perhaps not, Subrosa, but I always believe t...Well, perhaps not, Subrosa, but I always believe that the truth will out with or without a theory...<br /><br />And the Whip is the post before this one, so it's available for your delectation and delight - great to see you're still taking part when you can, by the way!Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10978812670312106107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19208183.post-60956604610119285292009-12-06T22:14:43.163+00:002009-12-06T22:14:43.163+00:00Don't wave aside conspiracy theories Will, som...Don't wave aside conspiracy theories Will, sometimes they are not too far short of the truth.<br /><br />Now where's your weekly whip? Far more important. Forgive me if I've missed it I've had other people on my computer.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.com